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August 19, 2019

8/6/2019 7:30:00 AM
Why we might lack a workforce

To the Editor:

While in college in 1973, during an economics class when Roe vs. Wade was passed, I remember the Economics professor made this statement: "Just wait 30, 40 or 50 years from now and see what this will do to our workforce."

I have never forgotten his statement some 46 years later.

So now I wonder! What if all those babies would have been allowed to live? Would we be in the workforce dilemma we face today? Would our businesses have been forced to leave our country in search of a workforce in another country?

Now, as different states are eliminating abortion, I wonder what difference it will make in our workforce some 30 to 50 years from now.

I personally feel abortion is wrong because I believe life begins at conception. The Bible says: "Thou shall not kill (murder)"! It is interesting that our country follows the 10 Commandments identifying that murder is wrong. Yet at the same time we kill babies in the womb.

I believe that murder is wrong and that our country has suffered from that decision over the years - morally, spiritually and now physically.

The medical field says life begins at conception. More states are moving to protect these babies. In Georgia, recent laws now ban abortion. In Missouri, they closed the Planned Parenthood clinic.

I have an idea. What if Congress writes a bill to get rid of Roe vs. Wade. Maybe in 40 years we won't have the workforce issues we have today.



Sincerely,

Jim Winkler

Newbold resident



Reader Comments

Posted: Tuesday, August 13, 2019
Article comment by: Dan Butkus

Again, Mr. H. continues with his argument against abortion, when my argument was against the faulty economic theory proposed by Mr. Winkler. I'll make this plain. Stick to the religious and moral argument against abortion.
It's a more solid argument than grasping at unproved and arcane economic theory.

So since we are now "musing" on the impact of laws on the workforce as Mr. H. notes in his defense of Mr. Winkler, I'll share my musings of my own ludicrous idea for solving the workforce shortage. We have millions of undocumented immigrants in the US. Oneida County should be a sanctuary county to attract immigrants. We can pay them less, we don't have to give them very many social services, and they're already of working age. Put them to work in the Northwoods. Problem solved. Yes, pretty much not a sound economic idea for solving the workforce shortage either. But since we live in an age where every idea has merit, mine is just as good as Mr. Winkler's.


Posted: Monday, August 12, 2019
Article comment by: Brian Holmes

Right. Ok, so 2016 numbers aren’t in yet. That near-78,000 figure will be added to significantly. That’s only the totals “reported” so far. Guttmacher Institute — closely allied with Planned Parenthood — does deep soliciting of information and only releases/updates for three-year periods.
The CDC numbers (always lower) are totals reported directly by state governments only. Guttmacher is considered authoritative. Hope that satisfies all.

Incidentally, California, Maryland, and New Hampshire do not report whatsoever. However, in 2014, California reported more that 140,000 abortions. The current governor is of course proclaiming free abortions as some kind of right. New York will probably follow the progressive instinct, I’d say, and choose to not report their numbers, especially now that a “medical professional” can abort up to full-term.

I’m guessing Mr. W was simply pointing out a sort-of side fact, an odd tidbit, a consequence of Roe v. Wade. As I recall, mostl were dumbfounded at the Supreme Court decision. Jane Q. Public wasn’t awaiting anxiously that outcome.

Why did liberals want it? I certainly can’t be sure, but I do know abortions were part of Marxist thought and Soviet life, specifically intended for young healthy girls and women whom leaders needed in the Soviet workforce. By 1973, liberals here were well into moving women out of the home, into the workforce (Betty Friedan, NOW, etc.).


Posted: Saturday, August 10, 2019
Article comment by: Dan Butkus

Mr. H, we can debate this endlessly. But to answer your questions, the National Economics Editorial, which I cited, is a conservative publication self described as dedicated to economic nationalism. Had you bothered to look up the article, the author also explained why 1) antiabortionists over-inflate abortion figures and 2) why pro abortionists always under-report the figures. This indicates a relatively fair analysis by the author. This brings me to your assumption I am pro abortion. I reread my comment. I did not indicate which side I’m on, only that I find Mr Winkler’s idea we should make babies to feed our economic engine draconian. You need to read first before jumping to conclusions and regurgitating. Also, learn to cite references when you talk “facts and figures”.

Posted: Friday, August 9, 2019
Article comment by: Brian Holmes

Wait, wait.... Democrats have preached that we’re in a post-moral era, so it’s probably wrong to tout morality here. We’re in a post-American era, too, they said — worldwide as well as here in America, which is strange. Foreigners having more rights than actual citizens, etc.

Times do change, though — thank goodness — the economy can get better, jobs can come back, so I guess we can start using morality again, too. Thus, I have to ask, what’s “moral” about abortion?

And unfortunately, Mr. B has his numbers wrong. There were somewhere between 600,000 and 900,000 U.S. abortions each year 2016 onward. Facts are facts.


Posted: Wednesday, August 7, 2019
Article comment by: Dan Butkus

Since Mr. Winkler alludes to his 1973 economics class, I'd point him to a recent and more fair analysis of abortion statistics in the April 15, 2017 National Economics Editorial. After reaching a peak of 1.4 million in 1990, legal abortions declined to the 1974 levels by 2016 to just under 78,000 in the US. In contrast there was a corresponding increase in use of male and female contraceptives, as well as more widespread sex education, during this time frame. These factors reduced unplanned or unwanted pregnancies, and therefore, lowered demand for legal abortions. What Mr. Winkler suggests is that we must overturn Roe v. Wade to create a workforce baby-factory, solving our workforce shortage. Since the pill and condoms are at an all time high in use, and are responsible for lowering both birth rates as well as abortion rates, the extension of Mr. Winkler’s argument is that we ought to ban contraceptives as well to bring along a new workforce in 30 to 40 years. Your economic argument on Roe v. Wade connotes commoditizing births to feed an economic engine. I find that morally objectionable. And the statistics don't support it either.




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